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Tuesday, February 20, 2018

Do You Bring up the Topic of Money on a First Date?




I recently fielded a question on a forum from a young lady who is living life with financial goals.  

 She asked, "Should I bring up the topic of money on the first date?  When should I pop the question:  How much debt do you have?"  

As someone who has been married 30 years and the mother of four children, I'll give you some thoughts which I have shared with them.  I will use the terms him and his for simplicity.  But, these questions and observations are meant to be applied to both genders. 


 What are your deal-breakers?  

Think about this question long before you go on that first date.  You should have a mental or written list.  "Deal breakers" are attitudes or actions that you really believe that you could not live with in a mate.  As far as finances are concerned, I would suggest that although it is important to know whether the person in whom you are romantically interested is in debt, it is his response to that debt, which should garner a greater amount of consideration. 
  •  Does he have a plan to pay off his debt? 
  • Does he find debt acceptable and expected?  
  • Does he desire to live debt-free? 
  • Is he considering taking on additional debt? 
  • Has he ever declared bankruptcy?  
  •  Is he already supporting an ex-wife or children? 
  • Does he plan to financially help his parents after they reach retirement age?
  •  Does he live on a written budget and have specific short, medium, and long-term goals? 

Allow the Topic to Come up Naturally  

As you talk about your own life, job, and goals, the topic of money will come up naturally.  Mention Dave Ramsey and explain who Dave is if your date has never heard of him.  You'll get an initial response of some sort. But, don't stop there!  It is equally important to get to know your date's life goals. For instance, if he's debt-free, but you desperately want to live in rural America and he loves the middle-of-the-city night life, then his financial condition may be a moot point.

If you've been on a few dates and he seems antsy or defensive when you ask a question about money, then it may or may not be a "red flag".  

1)  He may have as much money as Rockefeller and wants to ascertain that you love him for his sterling personality and not for his money. 
2)  It may be that he is poor as a church mouse and is afraid you'll "cut and run".  
3) He may have never been taught positive, life-giving communication skills.  

This third possibility would be a far greater concern to me than either of the first two scenarios.  

In any event, you may need to ask some open-ended questions, which gently invite him into the conversation.  Some people are simply more reserved than others and need time to open up about topics like money.  

Look at his family dynamics

 Now this is not so easy if your date is working in a career, living independently, and his parents live half way across the country or state.  But, you can certainly anecdotally get a sense of how money was spent and managed in his family of origin.  
  • Do his parents expect him to attend pricey family vacations or functions - regardless of his financial state?  
  • Are his parents still married?  And, if so, are they working toward common life goals - including those regarding retirement?
  • Does he remember money being an "issue" while growing up - too little?  more than enough?  
  • Does he remember a lot of stress or fights regarding money?  
  • Did his parents work together and function as a team?
  •  Was he expected to get a job and pay for his own expenses at a certain age?  
  • Was he expected to pay part or all of his own way through college?  
  • Was generosity of spirit and giving to others encouraged in his home while growing up?  
  • Did his mother work outside the home?  If so, was she expected to do so or did she desire to do so? 
  • Did his parents tithe?
  • Was money a "taboo" topic or was he free to ask his parents questions openly?  
  • Did his parents teach him how to handle money, budget, or save for goals?  
  • Would he raise his own children the same way or differently?  
  • What is his favorite memory and did money play a part in that memory? 

 Watch what he does as well as what he says
  • You want someone who loves his family (but doesn't allow his parents to run his finances or give him money every month to supplement his standard of living). 
  • You want someone with goals (but isn't so tied to them that he hasn't allowed himself any "breathing room.")  
  • You want someone who is generous (but not if they can't afford it).   
Take your time! Like many things in life, finance has many layers. It will take time to see the role that money plays in his life. 

Your turn!  What questions do you think should be asked about finances before marriage?  Comment below. 

Remember, 

Do all to the glory of God, 

Hope

2 comments:

  1. I agree with getting to know a potential life partner's mindset about finances. Regardless of where s/he is on the spectrum of addicted shopper to miser, if you are not on the same page, you will argue about it often. Make your own goals & find someone who shares them, or you will pull in different directions & make each other miserable.

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    1. I agree. Money issues are one of the number one reasons for stress in marriage and a major contributor to divorce. I've always stressed with my boys that they should not look for perfection in a partner, but someone who will work WITH them and function as a team. A lot of this goes back to learning and practicing positive and effective communication.

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